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Here's the deal:
  1. I've been paying attention to the Forums again lately.  I'm back at least until the story gets boring again.

  2. Rachel's MDT redux (which the mods have apparently decided to fold into the main MDT) was, I believe, a success.  I want to see if it's a repeatable success.

    Unless there are any major objections, I will probably post a "summary discussion thread" an "in perspective" thread (a better name is very welcome) 12-24 8-12 hours after [683] goes up.  The idea is that by this point all of the random "neat strip, Fred!" posts will be exhausted, some of the stupid theories will have been discussed away, and we can start talking more seriously about what just happened and what's about to happen.  I'm certainly welcome to suggestions of how to refine this idea.

    Edit: "[0NNN In Perspective] (Strip title)"?
    Edit2: Too long. "[NNN] In Perspective"

  3. Having said that, I really need to work on my homework...
Edit3: A proposed meta section for the top of my post:
[meta]
Now that we've had a few hours to examine and consider the latest strip, this thread is intended to give everybody a place to discuss theories refined in the MDT, as well as introduce new ones. If you just want to say "good strip" or "what's that in Erika's hand?", please use the MDT. If there is already a focus thread on a particular topic, please continue to use it.

Users are encouraged to at least skim the entire thread to ensure you aren't duplicating an earlier post; the idea here is to keep the discussion small and manageable enough that newcomers can participate. If you have just seen the strip, you may also find it helpful to check the first and last couple pages of the MDT to clear up any basic questions about what happened.

No doubt a few of you are already donning your trusty asbestos longjohns. Please refrain from metadiscussion for at least a few hours--let's see how well this works before we start bickering.
[/meta]
Rob also pointed out that 18 hours is way too long, and even 12 might be pushing it. I'm thinking more on the scale of 9 hours now (since that's about when I should wake up).

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vorkon
Mar. 7th, 2005 01:44 am (UTC)
*shrugs*

The MDT was a stupid idea from the very beginning. But as long as it's there to stay, and you think you have an idea to improve upon it, you might as well go for it. Good luck.
countalpicola
Mar. 7th, 2005 02:44 am (UTC)
I'm not so sure that #2 is a particularly good idea. Personally, I think our energy would be better spent trying to carve up the MDT, rather than trying to extend its life. The MDT that Rachel decided to spawn a second version of was definitely an anomoly. The thing was over ten pages in about as many hours. Usually, they max out in the low to mid teens, which is still small enough to be just barely managable for the people interested enough.

With the push to split the MDT into focus threads, the low to mid teen number will probably go down. I foresee a day when MDTs come to less than ten pages, maybe much less, and those ten pages will be mostly filled with stuff not even worth making a summary of.

On the other hand, doing something, no matter how ill-conceived, is better than the endless list of [meta] threads being spawned all over the forum every two days. This isn't the worst idea I've heard yet by any means. On that note, I'm inclined to say give it a try, even though I don't much like the idea.

For it to really work, though, you can't wait as long as a day. 12 hours probably works, but I wouldn't bother after more than 18. Normal MDTs build up inertia, if you wait too long, I doubt you'll have enough leverage to do anything useful.
brentdax
Mar. 7th, 2005 03:14 am (UTC)
The MDT that Rachel decided to spawn a second version of was definitely an anomoly.
IMHO, it grew so large because of the extremely surprising and pivotal nature of the strip. In other words, it happened because this is precisely the sort of strip that needs intelligent, in-depth discussion. Perhaps some strips won't need an I.P. thread, but I think it would make a handy addition to our arsenal of discussion-management techniques.

With the push to split the MDT into focus threads, the low to mid teen number will probably go down.
We don't have a large enough sample size yet, but I suspect the Focus threads won't significantly decrease the volume of the MDT; instead, they'll increase the amount of overall discussion. That's okay--the extra discussion in Focus threads will be more interesting and enlightening than anything in an overgrown MDT ever was--but if your goal is to simply shrink the MDT, I don't think they'll help.

those ten pages will be mostly filled with stuff not even worth making a summary of.
"Summary" was a misnomer from the beginning. I apologize.

For it to really work, though, you can't wait as long as a day. 12 hours probably works, but I wouldn't bother after more than 18.
Definitely agreed. Timeframe changed to 8-12 hours, with 9 or so being optimal.
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