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Point to consider

"An idea only has power over you if you believe it."

Agree or disagree?

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meagenimage
Apr. 11th, 2005 09:46 am (UTC)
I'll counter that with a "never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups".
izuko
Apr. 11th, 2005 11:11 am (UTC)
Depends on what you consider "having power" to be.
garran
Apr. 11th, 2005 11:41 am (UTC)
Right. An idea certainly has considerable indirect power, if anyone who does believe it has the power to compel you to their will.


-Garran
brentdax
Apr. 11th, 2005 05:17 pm (UTC)
But then those people have the power, not the idea itself. That's important because the idea becomes open to interpretation—witness what happened when a few fanatics got hold of the ideas of Islam, for example.
garran
Apr. 12th, 2005 12:46 am (UTC)
And so, the word 'indirect'.

I'm a little confused; under what circumstances is an idea not open to interpretation?


-Garran
chiave_trust
Apr. 11th, 2005 03:04 pm (UTC)
Depends on what you mean. Do you mean in the context of people in large groups? Or do you mean a more singular "you" (i.e., what a single person believes)?
haibane_rachan
Apr. 12th, 2005 01:56 am (UTC)
I disagree. Even barring the indirect, where I would say "..or if others believe it," there's some things that are ingrained in you early that are incredibly hard to shake, that still control you even though every single part of you knows they're wrong and doesn't believe in them at all.
laineverliving
Apr. 12th, 2005 03:15 am (UTC)
Hmmm...

... a very hard one, that statement is.

But...

... from my own experience, in particular with the sort of ideas that pertain to beliefs, I would have to say that I agree. It just would seem to me that... that the ideas we surround ourselves with are completely worthless, unless we decide to make them otherwise. Even long-held beliefs and ideas can be undone with sufficient powers of the will. For example, I give those who were raised in a strong religious faith but decided to become agnostic. I think that if you try to hide behind your ideas when you are declared 'wrong,' and you say that it was the fact that the belief or concept was so strong in your mind that you had to follow it, that you are denying the actual free-will and choice you have as a person. An idea, after all, can't 'think' for you. You have to do the thinking, and thus invite that idea into your mind where it can hold sway. So, yes, I suppose I would have to agree with that statement of yours, even if by doing so it might cause some debate with my fellows.
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